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| 2684 | 02/05/2013 18:17:55 | General chat | JC: I've decided to go ahead and write my book 'John and Sally ~ Radical Commuters'. It should take a year, and will be based on my / website radicaldebate.com / overheard and reported, often alcohol-fuelled/enhanced debates. I wonder how John and Sally are (doing) these days. I wonder if they've changed since I saw them last. Are they still hanging out - arguing the toss on all manner of things? Are they still 'nice'? ARE THEY STILL RADICAL? And is it still my round? |
| 2683 | 28/01/2013 18:00:36 | Materialism | Nuclear Nigels Apprentice: some say our objects owns us and we do not own them |
| 2682 | 18/01/2013 03:26:59 | Abilities 2 | John: Still. |
| 2681 | 17/01/2013 18:52:24 | Abilities 2 | Sally: Capitalism does exist. |
| 2680 | 31/10/2012 14:06:02 | Nuclear Nigel | The discovey of the god particle only confirms the standard model. I have a question to ask radical debaters what if their is many god particles?, would that be so bizzar. Im off to listen to "Sound Garden" now "Black hole sun" ta ta for now. |
| 2679 | 23/10/2012 00:56:28 | What a country is | JC: From memory, the debate on 'Struggle' was pretty good. |
| 2678 | 23/10/2012 00:52:40 | What a country is | JC: In any case, I disagree with 810 - its thesis that countries are essentially based on race seems flawed. By the way, what's the difference between a country and a nation? |
| 2677 | 23/10/2012 00:48:04 | What a country is | JC: This thread was apparently forked or branched out (by me) of the one on 'Struggle'. |
| 2676 | 15/12/2011 14:59:50 | China | "anyone here?" yes. cant get facetube reception from where i am. but i dont think im missing anything. i was just curious... reading a few articles about how thr EU might implode. or become a new germany united under the habsburgs..or how it might even be a conscious effort by the krauts to push the brits away. either way, is the will still there for the EU to continue as anything other than a greater deutschland, talking specifically about Britain |
| 2675 | 15/12/2011 05:29:17 | General chat | JC: Anyone here? Apart from Nuclear Nigel and his soliloquy. I've gone over to facebook johncarter2000. There are actual people over there. Meanwhile, feel free to browse past glories here. Who knows - John and Sally may pop in again one day. |
| 2674 | 12/12/2011 17:33:12 | End of a blog | what does anything mean, basically? |
| 2673 | 23/11/2011 22:30:33 | + Poetry | Nigel Coughlin Haiku Poems Moonlight Pale white moon Moon beams on the water Shines at night Death The end is near It symbolised by black Jump to nirvana Spring Daffodils bloom Rejuvenation to all Time stand still Nigel Coughlin Haiku Poems Tchaikovsky Born on the Swan Lake By many misunderstood Music of Gods |
| 2672 | 23/11/2011 14:19:55 | Nuclear Nigel | The Euro drop and drop in the dollar is at the dollar is at the forefront of the anti-climax of an unstable western society. More to the point from a philosophical economic stand point western society has depreciated to a hand to mouth policy but now with the raising of indirect tax in Ireland in the next budget and I will quote private joker from full metal jacket " The duality of man the yungian thing" are politicians so macheavelian that they would abolish the arts council and if so what of their conscience and humanity or maybe that dosen't come into play when there counting there wage cheques for the year. |
| 2671 | 15/11/2011 19:10:37 | Nuclear Nigel | Nuclear Nigel was a little heroic in his mission to asign a value on his new title as a superhero he is rather a complex character in modern society he is neither shy or ordinary and a little charming with the ladies and in intellectual terms he is impressive his superpower is being different and sometimes this is difficult but well is interesting none the less |
| 2670 | 27/09/2011 14:39:46 | Nuclear Nigel | JC: No less.. |
| 2669 | 25/09/2011 19:27:57 | Nuclear Nigel | I will no longerer hide behind a nickname this superheroes name is Nigel Coughlin from Ballyshannon and living in Sligo town if you would like to contact me im the one who plays chess at Osta coffee shop |
| 2668 | 23/09/2011 18:19:27 | Nuclear Nigel | What about a debate about buckey balls. Packets of atom fired out on a cyclotron are we going to discover the god particle or is god yet another biproduct of conformism. |
| 2667 | 23/09/2011 18:18:53 | Nuclear Nigel | What about a debate about buckey balls. Packets of atom fired out on a cyclotron are we going to discover the god particle or is god yet another biproduct of conformism. |
| 2666 | 20/08/2011 14:28:49 | General chat | The Tomorrow Report. Sometimes, corporations are capable of truly great things. If we could only drag ourselves away from the 'Apples' of this world, we might be able to see that other things are happening. http://techresearch.intel.com/tomorrowproject.aspx And yes, that many transistors seems to be possible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i7_microprocessors#.22Gulftown.22_.2832_nm.29 scroll down to the i7 Gulftown, and note 1170 million transistors on a 239mm square die. |
| 2665 | 20/08/2011 07:32:56 | General chat | Thousands, perhaps even tens of thousands. But I wouldn't have said millions, or billions. That seems stretching it a bit. I cannot imagine how it would be possible at the atomic level. How would it? And Intel are now starting production of IC's in 3 dimentions, so you now have another figure to multiply by, which will up the number considerably. Why the sudden interest in Moore's law anyway? Is dealing in unknown variables your field of study? Anyway, I know nothing of this subject beyond common knowledge and hobby-interest. It is a lot of transistors, and it has reovlutionized the world. Now the masses are able to effortlessly propagate their blandness to all 4 corners of the globe. Wonderful. Using this technology has proven to be a disaster for mankind. |
| 2664 | 19/08/2011 19:04:24 | General chat | JC: Let's say we have ten billion transistors on a chip 0.5" x 0.5". That's 10^5 x 10^5 transistors. That's 10^5 transistors in 0.5" in each row. that's 0.5" * 10^-5 inch per transistor. How wide is an atom? |
| 2663 | 19/08/2011 09:32:16 | General chat | Of course I glossed over it a bit; and yes obviously it is a bit more complicated. The information is freely available in any capitalist society. The process of forming an IC from a slice of silicon involves doping the surface in select regions to create 'P' and 'N' regions. These regions have different qualities when a current is applied to them. N regions are able to give up an electron, P regions want to gain an electron. Two regions adjacent to each other form a PN junction(a diode). This will allow current to flow only one way. More complicated components can be formed on the surface of the silicon slice, and by combining them, circuits can be built up. That is how it works, to make it... The process involves putting a cylindrical shaped lump of silicon in a vacum. It is carefully heated by a coil surrounding it to 2500F. The coil is moved up the cylinder taking all impurities with it. The end with impurities is sliced off. A wafer thin 0.01 of an inch piece is sliced off. The circuit design is prepared on a computer aidd drafting machine, and the image is made into a mask which is optically reduced in size and projected onto the silicon... |
| 2662 | 19/08/2011 02:24:59 | General chat | Each transistor is composed of a piece of silicon with two contacts either side. There is a 'whisker' contact in the middle. The idea being a smaller change in current or voltage at the whisker proportionately replicates potentially on a much bigger scale the current at the other two contacts. The usefulness of all this being legend, i.e. amplifiers, swithces tec. Traditionally discreet transistors were made as small as possible using the available technology and encased in glass or steel. Things have moved on since 1947, and it is possible to make a million transistors from one single wafer of silicon. This is possible because of laser technology, they are now able to burn away sufficient silicon and in such a pattern that one wafer can look like one million transistors soldered togerther but scaled down. Once you can do this process once, you can replicate it using robotic technology. And so the whole process goes on and on. The latest processing integrated circuits planned for next year bt Intel should see 3D modelling of circuit boards. This will break the old equation that every 2 years the amount of transistors will double. Eventually you will get to the level of atoms, where you cannot make something any smaller. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/9567066.stm Interesting debate: growth, or prosperity? |
| 2661 | 19/08/2011 00:31:22 | General chat | JC: OK. Change of subject. Explain to me how it's possible to get a billion transistors on a silicon chip 1cm x 1cm. |
| 2660 | 17/08/2011 05:00:19 | General chat | Anyway I don't like discussing politics, I am interested in new frontiers. England is not a new frontier, it is a failed state worse than Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. It is time to move on. What does anyone think about space exploration? |
| 2659 | 17/08/2011 04:56:59 | General chat | I completely agree with the language thing, the point wasn't that modern, evolved, simplified language is somehow inferior, but that commentators refuse to accept its existence. Starkey inadvertantly hit on a raw nerve. It's not Starkey that has a problem with race. The media and politicians and left wing people just refuse to accept kids in London now speak Jamaican patois. You have to ask why. I agree and support the modernization of the English language, it is one of the main reasons English is the language of choice for a considerable amount of people involved in commerce, science, literature etc. It seems fairly obvious we are not talking about the colour of peoples' skin, but about culture and behaviour. Yet, statistics defy social theory and you just cannot deny their existence. It is not a straightforward issue, but the reaction to Starkey commenting on England erupting into riots tells you so much about the society we live in and our complete unwillingness to face reality. |
| 2658 | 17/08/2011 03:38:37 | General chat | JC: I skimmed over your space travel part. On the other part, my view is people should use whatever language style they want ~ we in turn can choose who we'll listen to. I note your continued belief in a close association between nationality and race. Personally, I find there are so few people I would choose to listen to, I can't afford to exclude either. Even if you had your way, and each 'race' was neatly packaged up in its own little country, even you would soon get fed up with your own lot. |
| 2657 | 17/08/2011 02:59:03 | General chat | Anyway politics is not at all interesting. Social networking isn't either, as recent news reports claim, half of young people find it boring. I am though interested in the debate about space exploration. Where does the future lead, state financed deep space missions like China and India, or private enterprise funded like the 10 or so new firms such as Space Exploration Technology(Space X) or the partnership between Boeing, Lockheed Martin and the makers of the Atlas rockets. For Space X, it is unproven technology, but for Boeing it is a continuation of technology they developed in the 1960's. Some people say only nation states can afford the vast sums involved, but how much are eastern govts prepared to spend? Ultimately, state financing is not a long term proposition as we saw from the Soviet experience. Even NASA had a fundamental dinosaur edge to its dynamic, being wholly state funded, it knew the pockets had no bottoms. It seems though now that America is all but bankrupt, that has changed forever. Most of the Space Coast in Florida is closing down now that the Shuttle has been terminated, and Orion in its original form has also bitten the dust. It seems the US has turned completely to private industry to take the lead, at least in terms of heavy lift propulsion technology. One gets the feeling that all the great experiments conducted by NASA over the past 30 or so years have given little benefit to the country, even if the have benefitted mankind enourmously. For instance Hubble has shown us the Galaxy in a way we would never have known without putting a telescope in space away from the Earth's atmosphere. This advancement in science has benefitted China, India, Russia and the world. I am completely against abandoning manned deep space exploration in favour of robotic missions. I think it is vital for humanity to carry on exploring. I am now looking to private enterprise to take up the challenge. As soon as the heavy lift rockets are up and running(perhaps max 10 years), a whole new world will open up, a world of opportunities akin to the spirit of the west in the early part of last century. This will benefit every human on earth. We can then start to address the real problems and questions of our existence: not race, not class, not gender, not social inequality, but how to reach the nearest exoplanet before we become extinct. This is probably the single biggest issue facing humanity. It just might be possible if the right kind of companies can start to operate. But we have a finite amount of time to do so before our resources reach a level where it is no longer possible. We ought to stop wasting resources feeding or helping countries that are not interested in our style of life. We need to separate out the western capitalist countries that want to get on, and just leave the others to their own devices. The future requires an honesty of thought that is difficult for most people because their education ensures they are ideologically driven. |
| 2656 | 16/08/2011 06:43:46 | General chat | Yes but before he talked about Whammy Lammy he explained what he meant by talking about how Jamaican patois had become part of the English language as used by young people. This is completely true, in the past 20 years in London the dominant accent/attitude/language has become the broken English language of Caribbean slaves as adopted by Yardie drug sellers in Jamaica. He know what I mean man? It all started in 1979 with that song Uptown Top Ranking. It was a great performance on TOTP, sadly unsuccessfully copied by all the black girls in England. Anyway the leader of the Labour party has to chime in and slap down more people. Isn't he Jewish? He isn't English, that's for sure. His alliances lie not with the English people, but with a Jewish fantasist that wrote a book in 1859 that inspired a lot of nutballs. He should go to Israel, his promised Kibbutz fantasy and shoot Palestinians like his brethren. His people. He doesn't like ordinary people like me, it is written in his Tora that we are rubbish. Do you believe in the Tora? Or do you just like protecting psychopaths with left wing legislation? |
| 2655 | 16/08/2011 05:58:43 | General chat | JC: Wasn't Starkey saying that white kids had become black? He then gave as an example a black adult who sounded white. Not his finest hour. |
| 2654 | 16/08/2011 03:44:20 | General chat | I didn't say it was bad at all, I enjoy life very much. Btw: The whole world is becoming black. Therefore we will become extinct because africans are not capable of sustaining themslves, they need help from white people. Look at every african country to see what I mean. David Starkey was only stating the obvious in his BBC interview. Why do we want to brush this under the carpet? That is so pathetic and funny. |
| 2653 | 15/08/2011 10:58:42 | General chat | JC: Oh do buck up. It's not as bad as all that. |
| 2652 | 15/08/2011 09:28:02 | General chat | That's because you've never lived next door to a rioter. Or a drug addict, or a mugger. It is not a nice experience when all your efforts to make a pleasant home are ruined by people that respect nothing. Left wing people like Billy Brag never live beside the lower orders. They morally lecture everyone about appropriate behaviour, but never actually behave that way themselves. The left created this mass of people dependant on welfare for their next fix, and now they force ordinary taxpaying law abiding citizens to live next door to them. Might I suggest all left wingers practice what they preach? No, I didn't think so. I think you misunderstand the English. The English are not really those that live in England, since the latest figures state quite clearly 19 percent of the UK population was born outside the UK. In my experience, the English are very misunderstood people. One of their most striking traits is their passive nature, the way they turn the other cheek. Their forgiveness. They don't complain. Unfortunately, these traits have not got them into a possible terminal mess. They are looking extinction in the face, the same way Jews did in 1942. But this time there is no saviour, no more promised land, and no Hollywood to make the film. |
| 2651 | 15/08/2011 04:03:05 | General Chat | JC: I have no interest in punishing people. But I'm fairly sure I'd rather live next door to the average rioter than the average soldier or prisoner, or average entrepreneur or banker come to that so to me the best thing that could happen is no punishment at all and the causes dealt with. As for your Big Brother etc. - no I wouldn't wish those on anyone. I'm sorry you feel so sceptical about England. They may look like a bunch of baying hounds but look closer and you'll see an amazing variety of classes and types all ready to beat each other up almost to extinction but not quite. Stroppiness is taught in the schools. None of them will be pushed around too long without a fight. But we know who the English are. The ones who live there. A problem family that you wouldn't really want to live near. But ... oh I can't go on with this cosy crap. Just turn on Radio 4 and you'll get the sort of thing. |
| 2650 | 14/08/2011 16:15:52 | General Chat | Britain First think the convicted rioters should be given 2 years compulsory national service because they think it would give them a sense of duty, honour and pride, rather than sent to prison where it would only reinforce their deviant behaviour. Have you got a more effective punishment? Be honest. Would you suggest a slot on Big Brother or that other unspeakable horror reality show? The cameras? I could care less anymore, I am a hypocrite; I left the country nearly a year ago. I don't even care that much what happens in the UK anymore, I am just telling the truth as I can see it from all my experiences living there most of my life. I see a finished country, a country too far along the line to recover anything of its past. It used to be innovative, now it is just full of hype to get investment. It used to be a world leader in industry, now the last of its steel works has been sold to its former colony India. It makes nothing of any worth. It used to be creative musically, now it just parodys its own past. I am not lying when I say there is little of any worth left in the UK except some parasitical financial institutions and a few universities that have delusions of grandeur but are in fact little more than fourth rate high-schools. It is a left wing social experiment that is now just a powerless appendage of the German Liebensraum EU. My thoughts and feelings these days are better spent on other things. I occasionally feel pity pangs for those that still live there, isn't it funny how it still provokes debate? England is truly over. The left wing multicultural hellhole that is England is not worth any of my time. It's a Frankenstein bastard child of the Soviet Union. The sooner the rioters burn the lot down the better. |
| 2649 | 13/08/2011 21:19:39 | General chat | JC: Shouldn't that be Engrish, monkey man? You say Cameron is fiddling. What exactly do you want him to do? Crack down on something? By the way, I have something you may agree with. These CCTV cameras seem to be paying off, what? Even the police should be able to get the right guys now. And it makes the auditioning process that much quicker. Thank you for your interest in this matter. I await your donation. |
| 2648 | 13/08/2011 15:21:38 | General chat | "youthful audacity and obvious beauty and talent of many of the original rioters". It must be marketable in some way. The Clash did it, why not you? At one end of the scale the BNP think it is outrageous the blacks stripping and mugging whites. At the other end of the scale the SWP/labour party/radical debaser types think it shows some admirable human attributes, like spunk, audacity, bravado, authenticity, creativity. And all the time the east clobbers us economically and leaves us as worthless has-beens. Carry on being proud of being a has-been. I will buy the T shirt from China: "genuine english riot T shirt, guaranteed". Nero fiddled whilst Rome burned. But Nero couldn't hold a candle to Cameron. Lets see you hug a hoodie now you bastard. |
| 2647 | 13/08/2011 00:45:46 | General chat | Other, completely different person: I'm currently writing a Rock-Opera called London Riots ~ The Musical. It'll be a sort of cross between West Side Story and Oliver but with decent songs. I want to leverage some of the youthful audacity and obvious beauty and talent of many of the original rioters and would be grateful for any donations to supplement the generous Arts Council grant already received. |
| 2646 | 13/08/2011 00:22:33 | General chat | JC: Trying to out-irony me huh? |
| 2645 | 12/08/2011 11:33:30 | General chat | The future left wing dream coming to fruition. You people win. Well done. 2 thousand years of progress down the drain. John, you are obviously not interested in society, sociology, social history, psychology, politics or economics. Please carry on discussing the Rolf Harris incident, the UK incident is of no consequence to you. |
| 2644 | 10/08/2011 23:52:59 | General chat | JC: What is he on about folks? |
| 2643 | 09/08/2011 06:20:49 | General chat | Is the United Kingdom erupting into race riots? You can see from the photographs that the Turkish and afro-caribbean gangs stick together. Whatever, nobody can ignore 3 nights of rioting with injured people and burned cars and shops. What does anybody think is the cause? |
| 2642 | 08/08/2011 18:25:55 | General chat | Let me also apologize for the pitfalls of communism. Remember the seventies? Those nostalgic evenings spent fondly sympathizing with the Russians with their funny cheap fags, 200 percent proof vodka and Moskovich cars made out of cast iron and compressed cardboard? Yes, those were the days mon ami. Sadly, all good things... etc. But it could have been so good, if only it had been given a proper chance... Anyway, it looks like London is burning. For no particual reason. A bit like 1978 n'cest pas? Maybe this is the precursor for a new wave of punk? The disaffected youth etc. Nevermind the black bollocks, here's the Yardie Pistols? |
| 2641 | 08/08/2011 12:04:11 | General chat | JC: I take full responsibility for any minor defects capitalism may superficially appear to have. Let me apologize on behalf of all those who may have undermined it by thinking it less than perfect. |
| 2640 | 07/08/2011 11:43:08 | General chat | Could you be more precise? As far as I can see, Capitalism doesn't have any 'woes'. It has survived for more than 250 years, unlike many other political-economic systems, therefore it must be free of woes. If by woes you mean threats to its own existence. The 'current so called economic crisis' seems to be caused by nation states not acting in a capitalist fashion, yet demanding to be accepted as free trading partners. The nation states I am referring to are located in the east. This is compounded by the weakness of western states to demand compliance using force. Further, there is a net drain of resources from weakened western states to the thrid world to prop up muslim, african and latin american fascism. This is for reasons of communist ideology. You say communism is dead, but who is going to take responsibility for the mass havoc being wrecked by adherents to Marxism? Lastly, the EU is causing the re-emergence of German fascism in an institutional form that is beneficial to Germany but not the UK or peripheral states. It depends which viewpoint you adopt: the communist one, where it is all the fault of right wing ideology and people are inherently loving(please see Somalia, or the streets of Tottenham, London last night)but don't have the institutional means of rising above the concrete walkways of Walthamstow. Or a more objective one that deals more with hard economic facts, not wishy washy unproven social theory. India and other large Asian countries are richer countries than the UK, yet the UK pays aid money to these countries from a hard pressed electorate that has no choice in the matter. Primarily because the UK is run by a communist leaning soft conservative liberal alliance. So could you please try to be more objective in your analysis and state the nature of the so called economic problem? And please refrain from the use of political ideology, either state both sides of the srgument, or don't bother. Thank you. |
| 2639 | 06/08/2011 13:15:08 | Discrimination | JC: It seems to me that discrimination has received an undeservedly bad press of late. Surely the whole purpose of education and mindful experience in general is to learn how to discriminate. |
| 2638 | 06/08/2011 13:03:14 | Capitalism | JC: It seems to me that the trouble with borrowing is that it makes you dependent - it doesn't sit easily with freedom. |
| 2637 | 06/08/2011 12:58:31 | Capitalism | JC: And what do people think about "growth" being a way out of capitalism's current woes? |
| 2636 | 06/08/2011 12:54:16 | Capitalism | JC: Capitalism, in its own dumb-headed clumsy way, is forcing us to accept that many of us in the West have been consuming too much and creating too little. Borrowing when we should have been saving. Anyone agree with that? |
| 2635 | 06/08/2011 12:17:02 | General chat | JC: That's not the only route to personal freedom of course. Depending on your abilities and inclinations, you could try becoming an entrepreneur yourself. With my own set of a's and i's I have opted for a kind of linked-up practical individualism. I dabble. |